Tuesday, April 13, 2010

Seeking WOW Party-Building Advice

Me and my friend are planning on starting new characters on World of Warcraft, and I'm trying to think of a good build combination for our characters. I usually play as a Gnome Warrior with Mining %26 Blacksmithing, sometimes Engineering. He usually plays as a Human or Draenei, occasionally Night Elf, as the more magic-oriented classes. (His friend, who may or may not be playing the game with us sometimes, has a Human Paladin and Gnome Rogue he likes to play as, though he may make a new character altogether - we shall see.)I'd like some advice on what classes you feel complement the warrior best, and which professions you think might be good for his more magic-oriented class to take up. Also, while I usually focus on Protection, would you or would you not recommend I work on Arms and/or Fury? I like being able to take damage with strong armor and shields, but at the same time I like switching things up with 2-handed weapons sometimes.My main focus will be on strengthening my own character, rather than completing quests and exploring areas. My friend will probably care more about quests than anything.Seeking WOW Party-Building Advice
The best thing you could do is to have a healer. Tell your friend to make a healing class and you guys should be good. Seeking WOW Party-Building Advice
A druid or shaman.
Last time we played my friend was a Druid, but he liked turning into a bear more than anything so he usually couldn't heal us quick enough before we got wiped out. I know he said he liked playing as a Shaman because they have a shield and can use healing and offensive magic, but I worry that he would still just want to deal physical damage more than anything again.I mean, I would be cool with him helping me fight and all, but like you say we need a healer.
If your friend rolled a druid that would compliment your warrior nicely. Plus he could even help with crowd control in bear form or what not. Of course the disadvantage of course for druids healing is that while they are powerful healers they suck up mana fast so not quite as long lasting as a priest would be, but that is debatable to course. If you want to take and be able to still use 2h weapons effectively you could split your talent points between protection and arms. As RK mentioned shaman could work too, I don't think it would be as effective as a druid or priest though in complimenting your character, but a plus for them is they can resurrect themselves if they die. That could be quite helpful if you wipe out. The best pick for your friend would probably be priest though, and not only will he conserve mana better than a druid,but priests can also do quite a bit of damage. My opinion shadow priests are just as good at damage dealing as any other caster class. As for professions, magic classes typically choose tailoring,enchanting, or alchemy. Tailoring because you can make some epic cloth armor at high levels. Enchanting... I found only really useful for making money. Alchemy is nice for mana and health potions. Plus they make some nice money later on when you can make flasks.
Well, if youre a warrior, then some sort of healer would be ideal. No, it doesnt have to be a priest, but a druid, shaman, or paladin would work well.Also, it depends on what spec you are going...my friend and I are both melee classes and its kinda fun wailing on mobs together with axes and swords; but I am a protection pally, and he is a fury warrior, so it works out great. I hold aggro, can heal myself, and he just beats the crap out of them.Seriously, though, it doesnt really matter. But anything that can limit downtime (drinking and eating) is good. So, warrior and paladin or warrior and shaman would be cool.
What kinda of benefits could you guys see a warlock or mage bringing to the warrior, vice versa?
Warlock would be able to soul shard, although in a party thats best saved for whoever can resurrect. And mage can make food. Also if you are a tank and can keep the aggro off your friend could kill stuff pretty fast. There would be alot of downtime in between fights though. Since he can't heal you plus being a nuke uses alot of mana. Really there isn't any class that doesn't work well with a warrior. They are just sort of made to be universally compatible.
With enough DPS, you wouldn't even need a healer. A warlock/mage nuking from distance and a warrior in close combat and your opponents won't last long enough to actually deal real damage. I absolutely love playing a mage or warlock. Have you thought that maybe you could roll a different class. Perhaps a paladin? It's still good in combat but can also heal a bit. And a paladin works well with any other class. Same can be said about shaman.
Nah I like my warrior. XDBut alright, thanks for your ideas everyone. I'll talk it over with my friend and see what we come up with. Thanks!
[QUOTE=''Ovirew''] What kinda of benefits could you guys see a warlock or mage bringing to the warrior, vice versa?[/QUOTE]a whole lot of dps.i mean, really...anything works. Its just the warrior would need to eat frequently (to heal) and the mage would need to drink (to mana up).You also need to think about instances. It is a lot easier to find 3 dps'ers than it is to find one dps, a healer, and a tank. So, maybe as a warrior (have you ever thought about being a pally? Theyre great when spec'd protection!) and your friend as a priest it would be a lot better. If your friend likes to play casters, yet has not rolled a priest, he should definately do it.My two classes I spend a lot of time with are my main priest, discipline spec (good mix for soloing and healing), and a paly sepec'd protection (nothing better than taking on ten mobs my level with a priest by my side and killing them with ease).
1. Don't bother with protection. Arms or Fury Warriors are perfectly good tanks. Protection is only any good in raids, especially with the recent changes to high level dungeons.2. If your friend prefers casters, then any of the hybrids like elemental shaman, Balance Druid, or shadow Priest are a great choice. That way he can DPS while you guys level and heal dunegons and group quests.
you roll gnome warrior, have him be a druid and you can not only be great for parties but in arena 2v2 warrior druid is way OP. if not that make him go dwarf priest ( make sure dwarf) if pally, dwarf too.
[QUOTE=''Ovirew'']Last time we played my friend was a Druid, but he liked turning into a bear more than anything so he usually couldn't heal us quick enough before we got wiped out. I know he said he liked playing as a Shaman because they have a shield and can use healing and offensive magic, but I worry that he would still just want to deal physical damage more than anything again.I mean, I would be cool with him helping me fight and all, but like you say we need a healer.[/QUOTE] Well tell your friend to stop being a noob druid. If you have a warrior or other tank in the group, absolutely no reason for him to be going bear form. Currently I'm a level 67 boomkin. I like boomkin because my gear works for healing AND for spell damage. So if I need to heal I can do fairly well even though I'm not resto spec. Other alternative, have your druid friend go feral and catform for dps. You stick with your warrior, and someone else plays a priest.
[QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']With enough DPS, you wouldn't even need a healer. A warlock/mage nuking from distance and a warrior in close combat and your opponents won't last long enough to actually deal real damage. I absolutely love playing a mage or warlock. Have you thought that maybe you could roll a different class. Perhaps a paladin? It's still good in combat but can also heal a bit. And a paladin works well with any other class. Same can be said about shaman.[/QUOTE] Well that is assuming they won't be doing instances. If you need to do instances, you're going to need heals unless you are higher level than you need to be to do it.
theirs a lot of noob talk in this thread.if your friend rolls a healer class, and specs into healing, he should be doing nothing but healing in a instance / raid group...in a 5 man group a healer is necisary.... im talking high lvl stuff, tho maybee you can do wailing caverns without a healer but thats not rly a group thing. thats lowbie easy instances.any class can be a good 5 man healer. druids are usually not picked because they cannot rez parties.. so you will do a lot of running back on whipe fests, but in 25 mans their great.palidans and druids in a 25 man setting are main tank healers , shaman and priests are party healers , shaman in raids spam chain heal and the raid spec priest spams circle of healing along with hot's.the guy who said you dont need to be protection, you can get by lower lvl stuff as arms or fury.. but itll be tough.. dont even bother doing a lvl 70 instance tanking or lol a raid as anything but raid spec prot.. and a lvl 70 instance.. you can only get by as non prot if your gear is WAYY over the lvl of the instance your doing.i was in a top 80 guild in the US.. armory me.. afflictor on eonar. (sort by lvl tho cuz i havnt played since april my relevance is low)
[QUOTE=''nimatoad2000'']theirs a lot of noob talk in this thread.if your friend rolls a healer class, and specs into healing, he should be doing nothing but healing in a instance / raid group...in a 5 man group a healer is necisary.... im talking high lvl stuff, tho maybee you can do wailing caverns without a healer but thats not rly a group thing. thats lowbie easy instances.any class can be a good 5 man healer. druids are usually not picked because they cannot rez parties.. so you will do a lot of running back on whipe fests, but in 25 mans their great.palidans and druids in a 25 man setting are main tank healers , shaman and priests are party healers , shaman in raids spam chain heal and the raid spec priest spams circle of healing along with hot's.the guy who said you dont need to be protection, you can get by lower lvl stuff as arms or fury.. but itll be tough.. dont even bother doing a lvl 70 instance tanking or lol a raid as anything but raid spec prot.. and a lvl 70 instance.. you can only get by as non prot if your gear is WAYY over the lvl of the instance your doing.i was in a top 80 guild in the US.. armory me.. afflictor on eonar. (sort by lvl tho cuz i havnt played since april my relevance is low)[/QUOTE] Druids can rez parties. They have a new rez spell Revive, no reagents and no cooldown.
As far as specs go - spec with whatever you think will be fun. You'll have no problem tanking in instances as arms or fury until you start heroics, and I'd argue that those are also manageable.
ah rly they gave druuds th at? cool, yeah i havnt played since april , altho i have looked at the new talent trees i didnt see the new spells.
[QUOTE=''nimatoad2000'']ah rly they gave druuds th at? cool, yeah i havnt played since april , altho i have looked at the new talent trees i didnt see the new spells.[/QUOTE] Yeah the latest patch added that in.

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